This is one of several posts I never published, but maybe it will be helpful for some readers to review Dan's style of apologetics in the hope that he will announce a meaningful course correction.
In other words, I hope this post is relegated to the dustbin of history because Dan renounces his past and become open to multiple faithful working hypotheses.
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Someone sent me Dan's scholarly comments on the Carthage movie, including this gem: "I'm hoping that this repulsive piece of speculative historical revisionism will soon fade into the obscurity that I believe it abundantly deserves, and I'm very reluctant to give it even the slightest degree of publicity."
He's not just reluctant; he's very reluctant.
Which apparently means he has to tell all his followers about it.
But Dan's characterization looks like a Freudian slip, because it applies to the M2C and SITH theories he's been promoting for decades.
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Recently, a two-part podcast by RFM (a former LDS apologist turned critic, who is hoping to leave his law practice to work full time as a critical podcaster) discussed Dan's history advocating for M2C.
Below the transcript from one caller who related his experience with Dan.
Dan's defenders will object to me citing an "anti-Mormon" podcast, but the experience related by this caller is not uncommon. Active members of the Church have related similar experiences to me. They stay in the Church despite Dan because they reject Dan's mode of apologetics and the SITH/M2C narrative he promotes.
I'm hoping that Dan will change his mode of apologetics, but if he doesn't, I hope more Latter-day Saints recognize that Dan doesn't represent the Church.
I hope more Latter-day Saints reject Dan's form of apologetics instead of rejecting the Church.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4tYNWFkO6o&t=5928s
we'll go to a caller who has a personal story about dan peterson caller you're on mormonism live with rfm and bill reel uh what's your experience with the taper dan and keep it clean okay okay sure sure yeah yeah and you're really quiet if you can talk a little louder my friend okay can you hear me yeah i can hear you but any better yeah yeah what's your experience with dan peterson okay um when i was i hadn't all the way left to church yet but everything was just really really weighing heavily on me somehow i came across uh one of dan's um blog posts you know articles or whatever and i didn't realize that it was his like personal blog i just started with some article that he had written that somebody had posted somewhere and and it just got me kind of incensed um and i wrote a comment in the comment section
what made you incensed about dan peterson's article um i i i this will make sense to you when i say this but i don't remember the content of the article but it was the condescending uh nature of just the i mean he's a polemicist you know like and and uh it just i realized that in the past i would have like accepted that like oh he's on the lord's side he's he's fighting for the church and yeah there's these nasty people out there but once you start to like see the other side of the equation and you become the person on the other side and you realize you're not a bad person you're just following the truth right then you become the target of that um that rhetoric and it's disgusting it feels icky and i addressed some comment like dan like i like this is terrible the way that you talk about people and um like i can't take this anymore or something like that and uh he and louis midley ganged up and they turned into this whole thing on there where i was going through this experience where i had commented because i was hurting right and and i get it like you know but still uh the feeling of these people who are defending the church being so nasty and vile and condescending like i'm the idiot here i'm the i'm the dummy you know and i used to look up to him and think oh well at least we have somebody who's really smart on our side and he uses big words and he seems very intelligent and everything but when you actually look at like the the arguments that are made and the defenses that are given it's just nonsense it's utter nonsense and i feel like my my my son's like 13 years old could poke through half of this stuff just on reading and saying well that's not a good way to argue a point or you know what i mean like and that feeling of being um excoriated by these guys and having my orthodoxy called into question and all of a sudden lou midgley gets on and says oh i'll just look this guy up and he's not legitimate he's not really a member of the church and it was so icky that that was like it for me like there's just no no way no i can't be part of this anymore and i was like it gave me that push that i needed you know because you're you're worried about well i don't want to hurt people's feelings what about my family and what about all this and that incident right there was like definitely gave me the push that i needed like you know what screw you do yeah because i was already there but like you know that was it for me and i hear what you're saying i've had the same experience and trodden the same path it wasn't the reason i exited or anything but definitely uh viewing daniel peterson uh in one way before seeing him uh react to me personally like he did the critics of the church when i'm just trying to ask a question and get some information or clarification and absolutely louis midgley you got attacked by the midge daniel c peterson's crummy little toady yeah by the way you now know what the city in daniel said in the christmas card boom chakalaka he got it did you get that one bill this is the second time i've used it i can barely hear him okay but okay so anyway it was actually me so the deal is this you found out what the c and daniel c peterson stands for which is condescending yeah daniel condescending peterson i've had the same experience with him and midgley both um just any time and myself or other people pushing back at the uh what i thought was demonstrably absurd narratives that some of the apologists would give on these issues and any time they got resistance they really resorted to mean-spiritedness and personal attacks and ad hominem
yeah thank you so much for the call https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoTsWIbTy2M&t=4451s
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