Wednesday, February 11, 2026

More on Jeff Lindsay's Moses "parallels"

This is a follow-up to the previous post. I forgot to add these examples.


43

Shaking, trembling of heavens, earth, Satan, and the wicked / shaking off Satan’s chains, bands, and sin

“adam fell” BM (1) PGP (1) JE (4)

“by his fall” BM (1) PGP (1) JE (5)

JE: “God made man in a blessed state 3. Man's misery by his fall

“made partakers” NT (3) DC (4) PGP (1) JE (100)

“carnal, sensual, and devilish” BM (1) PGP (2)

 James 3:14–17 and JE. "If ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth: this wisdom descendeth not from above; but is earthly, sensual, devilish

JE: “Referring manifestly to what he had been saying, in the immediately preceding discourse, about spiritual and natural men, and evidently using the word "carnal" as synonymous with "natural." By which it is put out of all reasonable dispute, that the Apostle by "natural men" means the same as men in that carnal… For the Apostle in his sense includes the more spiritual vices of envy, strife, etc. as appears by the four first verses of the next chapter; where, as I have observed, he substitutes the word "carnal" in the place of òς. So the apostle Jude uses the word in like manner, opposing it to "spiritual," or "having the spirit." V. 19, "These are they that separate themselves, sensual" (ψυχικο), "not having the Spirit."  sinful state, that they are in by their first birth

Moses 1:21, 6:47–49, 7:41, 61

47 And as Enoch spake forth the words of God, the people trembled, and could not stand in his presence.

48 And he said unto them: Because that Adam fell, we are; and by his fall came death; and we are made partakers of misery and woe.

49 Behold Satan hath come among the children of men, and tempteth them to worship him; and men have become carnal, sensual, and devilish, and are shut out from the presence of God.

(Moses 6:47–49)

2 Nephi 1:13, 23, 9:44–45, 28:18–19

44

Misery (either for Satan or his followers)

“doom” BM (2) DC (1) PGP (1) JE (20)

“sufficiently” OT (2) BM (18) DC (5) JE (100+)

JE: “they thought me sufficiently instructed in the mind of Christ to teach them” “When we are sufficiently instructed that all these things were typical”

“miserable” OT (1) NT (2) BM (6)

“miserable forever BM (2) JE (20)

JE: “If I can't be holy, I must necessarily be miserable forever.” “But by sin man has drove away God from the soul, and therefore must be miserable forever if God returns not. Sin as naturally makes the soul miserable as poison doth the body,”

JE: “The devil, if permitted, can terrify men as well as the Spirit of God, it is a work natural to him, and he has many ways of doing it, in a manner tending to no good. He may exceedingly affright persons, by impressing on them images and ideas of many external things, of a countenance frowning, a sword drawn, black clouds of vengeance, words of an awful doom pronounced,* hell gaping, devils coming, and the like, not to convince persons of things that are true, and revealed in the word of God, but to lead them to vain and groundless determinations;”

Moses 7:37, 41

37 But behold, their sins shall be upon the heads of their fathers; Satan shall be their father, and misery shall be their doom;

(Moses 7:37)

wherefore Enoch knew, and looked upon their wickedness, and their misery, and wept and stretched forth his arms, and his heart swelled wide as eternity; and his bowels yearned; and all eternity shook.

(Moses 7:41)

2 Nephi 2:5, 11, 13, 18, 23, 27, 9:9, 46; Mosiah 3:25; Alma 3:26, 9:11, 26:20, 40:15, 17, 21, 41:4, 42:1, 26; Helaman 3:29, 5:12, 7:16, 12:26; Mormon 8:38

5 And men are instructed sufficiently that they know good from evil. And the law is given unto men. And by the law no flesh is justified; or, by the law men are cut off. Yea, by the temporal law they were cut off; and also, by the spiritual law they perish from that which is good, and become miserable forever.

(2 Nephi 2:5)

45

Misery and woe

JE: while those that are so far from G and lie under so much Guilt will and the Children of satan are thereby exposed to the extramost misery and woe

Moses 6:48

2 Nephi 1:13; Alma 9:11; Helaman 5:12, 7:16

46

The infinite nature of God’s love and the Atonement (Enoch’s “heart swelled wide as eternity” and his “bowels yearned” in tasting the grief of human wickedness / Christ’s “bowels of mercy” and infinite atonement)

“bowels of mercy” BM (3) JE (2)

“in their epistles abundantly recommending love, peace, gentleness, prudence, bowels of mercy and kindness”

“bowels yearned” OT (1) PGP (1) JE (2)

JE: “When once Joseph's brethren were thoroughly humbled, then his bowels yearned towards them with exceeding great compassion and tenderness of heart”

“all eternity” BM (5) DC (8) PGP (7) JE (100+)

JE: “there are two worlds. The one is corruptible but the other incorruptible; the one is that which can be shaken, the other that which cannot be shaken, but shall remain to all eternity

“infinite atonement” BM (3)

JE: “this again shows the truth of what the Scripture reveals concerning the necessity of a Savior, to offer an atonement of infinite value for sin”

JE: “this proves that a sacrifice of infinite value was necessary, and that God would accept of no other: for an atonement that bears no proportion to the offense is no atonement”

JE: “with all the heart accepting an infinitely great atonement for sin in a divine Mediator's suffering the infinitely terrible effects of God's displeasure for our sins”

Moses 7:28–41, particularly 41

Bowels of mercy: Mosiah 15:9; Alma 7:12, 26:37, 34:15
>Infinite atonement: 2 Nephi 9:7; Alma 34:10, 14 (cf. Alma 26:37)

9 Having ascended into heaven, having the bowels of mercy; being filled with compassion towards the children of men; standing betwixt them and justice

(Mosiah 15:9)


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