Monday, November 17, 2025

More stylometry - D&C 132

Corresponding to the Come Follow Me curriculum for 2025, the Interpreter published a paper titled "Historical and Stylometric Evidence for the Authorship of Doctrine and Covenants 132."

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/historical-and-stylometric-evidence-for-the-authorship-of-doctrine-and-covenants-132/#footnote162anc

This is a good title in the sense that it does provide "evidence" to support the claim that Joseph Smith was the author of (actually, that he dictated) what is now D&C 132. The article is obvious bias confirmation, which is fine, so long as readers understand that. It is not balanced in any sense, so it is probably unpersuasive to those who do not already agree with the premise.

In my view, there is good textual evidence that Joseph produced D&C 132, beyond or in addition to what is set out in the Interpreter, which I've explained here:

https://www.ldshistoricalnarratives.com/2025/11/corroborating-josephs-production-of-d.html

Consequently, I do not object to or disagree with the conclusions of the article. 

But the Interpreter article could have been improved if it did not commit the common logical fallacies that seem endemic in the Interpreter, due to its editorial stance. (I've offered many times to help peer review their work, but they do not want my advice. Which is fine. But that's one reason why they keep making the same errors and why so few people consider the Interpreter a legitimate academic journal.)

The article features two elements common to the editorial positions of the Interpreter:

(1) It avoids quoting Joseph Smith.

(2) It applies outcome-driven analysis (bias confirmation) selectively.

We'll discuss those points below.

My main interest is the purported stylometry analysis. The article presents the same type of "black box" stylometry we've seen before. The results look great but they are not replicable because the article does not give us the function word list, text files, or code (software) used. Nor does it give us a reference to where we can find that information.

In the pursuit of clarity, charity and understanding, and in a time when transparency is expected, readers deserve this information. There is really no point (other than bias confirmation) in publishing the results of "stylometry" if no one can replicate the work because "stylometry" is so easily manipulated.

For example, the limited number of sections they tested made me curious whether the authors included all of the sections in the Doctrine and Covenants and then selected the particular sections they discussed in the article because they produced the results they wanted.

I'm curious about the impact of testing

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Now, let's discuss the the endemic problem characteristic of Interpreter publications on certain topics, starting with the basic thrust of the article which sets up a false dilemma fallacy.

Central to that counter-narrative is the text of section 132.40 From the earliest days of the efforts to deny that Joseph engaged in polygamy, the position of the deniers has been that section 132 “is a complete fabrication.”41 But if Joseph Smith is indeed the author of section 132, all of the efforts to prove that Joseph Smith never engaged in polygamy are fatally undermined.42

This dichotomy ignores a third possibility; i.e., Joseph could have produced some of what is now D&C 132, with others adding/editing it to what it is today. That would explain both the purported "stylometry" results and the "chunks" of language circulating in Nauvoo (as shown in the tables), and would be consistent with recollections (decades later) that the existing copy is correct. 

The changes to the revelations between the Book of Commandments and the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants are one precedent for such additions and editing. I'm not saying this is the case, but it is a possibility that should not be ignored.

At any rate, had I done a peer review I would have suggested they avoid the irrational dichotomy in the quote above.

Second, the article relies on an argument that the editors of the Interpreter adamantly reject regarding the origin and setting of the Book of Mormon.

Furthermore, this section is not written in Joseph Smith’s handwriting, thus calling into question, in the minds of revisionists, whether it comes from Joseph Smith. While it is true that we do not have any evidence endorsing polygamy that was written by Joseph’s hand, it is also true that we actually do not have much that was written by the hand of Joseph about anything. Joseph Smith’s publications come to us mostly through scribes....

We should, therefore, not be surprised when Joseph Smith’s support for polygamy is found in the mouths or hands of others.  

This line of argument is the inverse of what has become a perennial excuse by the Interpreters to reject what Joseph did actually say/write about the origin and setting of the Book of Mormon. 

When the Interpreters promote the Mormonism Unvailed version of the translation (the stone-in-the-hat or SITH), they insist that Joseph did not say much about the translation except that it was by the "gift and power of God." Of course, we can all see that is false. No matter how many times the Interpreters repeat that argument, we can all read what Joseph wrote in the Wentworth letter, the Elders' Journal, etc. 

SITH is not a case of not having "much that was written by Joseph" but of rejecting what Joseph wrote.

Rather than engaging with (let alone accepting) what Joseph (and Oliver) wrote, the Interpreters say the matter is closed because of the Gospel Topics Essay, which also does not quote or even cite what Joseph and Oliver said about the translation. They use the same circular reasoning in this article, citing the Gospel Topics Essay on polygamy as authority.

The Interpreters use the same type of arguments to promote M2C (the Mesoamerican/two-Cumorahs theory), claiming that because "we do not have much that was written by the hand of Joseph about" Cumorah, he must not have taught that Cumorah was in New York. But when we do have something Joseph wrote (D&C 128:20), which corroborates the statements of others that Moroni identified the hill Cumorah before Joseph even got the plates, the Interpreters nevertheless reject what Joseph wrote. They do so by claiming that Joseph "adopted" a false tradition about the New York Cumorah. And then they cite the Gospel Topics Essay on Geography which doesn't even mention Cumorah.

They compound that approach by rejecting what "is found in the mouths or hands of others" regarding the New York Cumorah, including Oliver Cowdery, Lucy Mack Smith, David Whitmer, Brigham Young, etc.

Yet here, to support Joseph's authorship of D&C 132, they apply the opposite standard because they have to rely on what "is found in the mouths or hands of others" to support their narrative.

Narrative

Joseph said nothing

Joseph said something

Others said something

Polygamy

Infer he did tell people close to him about D&C 132

Reject what he did say because he was protecting the Church from Illinois law

Reject or accept based on whether the others agreed that Joseph produced D&C 132

SITH

Infer he did not tell people close to him about using the Urim and Thummim and the plates

Reject what he wrote about translating with the Urim and Thummim that came with the plates

Reject or accept based on whether the others agreed with the SITH narrative. This means rejecting Oliver Cowdery and John Whitmer, while accepting Mormonism Unvailed

M2C

Infer he did not tell people close to him about Cumorah

Reject what he wrote in D&C 128:20

Reject what those close to Joseph and his successors said about Cumorah

To be clear, I'm fine with people applying such inconsistent standards. In the pursuit of clarity, charity and understanding, I encourage everyone involved with these issues to apply the FAITH model, which means starting with Facts, and then articulating Assumptions, Inferences and Theories that support the various Hypotheses (multiple working hypotheses).

But the Interpreters, like the Gospel Topics Essays, consistently avoid starting with the facts of what Joseph Smith (and Oliver Cowdery) actually wrote. It is the opposite of clarity and transparency.

It is fine with me that they disagree with Joseph and Oliver, but it is not fine that they are not clear and transparent about that disagreement.

And it is amazing that this type of analysis persists in a purportedly academic journal.

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The tables in Appendix B are mildly interesting but could also cut both ways. First, the linguistic connections are vague and involve other well-known scriptural terminology. Second, the presence of this language could support any of the three working hypotheses: Joseph dictated D&C 132 as it stands, he dictated something that was later edited, or he didn't dictate it at all. The tables seem only useful as weak confirmation bias.

For example, Table 4 compares D&C 132 to William Clayton's journal. Clayton recorded Joseph's dictation and read it back to him for accuracy. Yet in his journal, he used terminology not found in D&C 132, mostly drawn from biblical passages, and did not use key terminology that is found in D&C 132. Examples include "everlasting covenant," a biblical term, instead of "new and everlasting covenant," "authority of the priesthood" instead of "keys of the priesthood," "cease to increase" instead of "cannot be enlarged," "unpardonable sin" (a nonbiblical Book of Mormon/Edwards term) instead of "blasphemy against the Holy Ghost" (a biblical term in D&C 132), etc.

One that interested me is "buffetings of Satan," a nonbiblical phrase used by both Clayton and D&C 132. It likely developed from 2 Corinthians 12:7. "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure." 

But the phrase also appears in Sections 78 (March 1, 1832), 82 (April 26, 1832), and 104 (April 23, 1834) (as well as in Jonathan Edwards). All of these sections are outside the range of sections considered for "stylometry" in this paper. 

While Clayton's use of the phrase in 1843 might have been the result of his scribing D&C 132, he could also have learned the term from the earlier sections of the D&C or from other sources (such as Jonathan Edwards). 

This is just a sample of the type of peer review that we all wish the Interpreter would solicit to improve the quality of its publications.


 






 


Sunday, November 2, 2025

Fit to print in the Interpreter

A friend of mine sent me one of the more outlandish theories of Book of Mormon geography. 

I told him, "submit it to the Interpreter. They'll print anything so long as it doesn't support what Joseph and Oliver said about the origin and setting of the Book of Mormon."

:)

Thursday, October 23, 2025

Peer reviews and correcting errors

Here's an explanation for why there are so many errors in "peer-reviewed" papers.

, does this information change your attitude towards "peer-reviewed studies"?

No, it reinforces my longstanding view that peer review is a useful but imperfect filter, prone to human incentives like publication pressure. Blind faith in the label ignores replication failures and biases. We should prioritize reproducible evidence and open debate over any institutional seal.

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1 in 5 chemists have deliberately added errors into their papers during peer review, study finds | Dalmeet Singh Chawla, Chemical & Engineering News Conclusion is one of many in a report about how chemists handle errors in manuscripts More than 20% of chemistry researchers have deliberately added information they believe to be incorrect into their manuscripts during the peer review process, in order to get their papers published. That’s one conclusion of a study surveying 982 chemistry researchers who were the corresponding authors of at least two papers published in journals of the Royal Society of Chemistry or the American Chemical Society between 2020 and 2023. (ACS publishes C&EN.) The study, published by Accountability in Research, aimed to document how chemists react when they spot errors in other researchers’ studies or their own manuscripts and what action, if any, they take when they do so. When asked if they felt they were forced to modify their manuscript with text they thought to be incorrect, 22% of survey respondents said yes. Study author Frédérique Bordignon, a bibliometrician and research integrity officer at École des ponts ParisTech, says one reason for making such a concession is to wrap up the review process and get a paper published. “It’s a bit concerning,” she says. Most survey respondents—88%—said they had discovered errors in papers when reading them. Out of those who spotted errors, nearly four in five reported taking further action. While most researchers agree that formally correcting the scholarly record is the best practice, that’s often not what they do in practice, Bordignon says. “They prefer off-the-record activities like discussion with other peers,” she says. Among those who took action, 42% mentioned the issue in private conversations to colleagues such as during coffee breaks or at conferences; around a third cited the problematic paper in their own future publication, highlighting the issue; and around 30% mentioned it to students during training courses. While 28% reported talking to or emailing the authors of the problematic paper encouraging them to retract or correct the paper, the study found, 22% chose to simply ignore the error and never cite it. (Many participants were represented in multiple categories, as they reported carrying out more than one action in some instances.) Among other actions, 13% wrote a letter, comment, or note to the journal; 4% started their own replication project; 4% published a formal refutation of the study; and 2% commented on PubPeer, a website where scientists often discuss papers. The survey found that 56% of researchers said errors should be corrected, as a matter of principle; that number rises to 82% when it comes to researchers’ own studies. Meanwhile, a third of survey respondents said an error should be corrected only if it changes the conclusions of the paper. François-Xavier Coudert, a computational chemist at France’s National Center for Scientific Research who was not involved with the study, thinks all errors need to be fixed. “Identifying errors and their cause is often a lengthy and effort-consuming process, so the results should be made available to all readers,” he says. “This is the only way to have more reproducibility in research.” Bordignon says more transparency is needed among chemists. “The problem is, it’s sometimes difficult to face the consequence of being critical of someone else,” she says. “I think we should encourage researchers to be more open to critiques and be more open to flag research of others as well because that’s part of science.” That’s why Bordignon feels chemists should comment on PubPeer more often. Coudert agrees that more postpublication peer review of chemistry studies is needed. “PubPeer is one platform where that can happen, but it is not necessarily the only one,” he says. One way to allow for easier communication of corrections or updates to research is to treat research papers as “living” documents that can be dynamically edited if follow-up work yields new results. “This is exactly what happens with preprints, where all readers know that the ‘final’ published version of the article will be different from the preprint version,” Coudert says.

https://x.com/OwenGregorian/status/1980972775151194352

https://cen.acs.org/policy/publishing/One-five-chemists-deliberately-added/103/web/2025/10

When I did my Masters project in Computer Science, I was basing some of my work on another academic paper that outlined a math process I was using. I was never able to get it to work properly beyond the first iteration, and the mathematical process being used was far outside my knowledge base at the time. I found out years later that the author of that paper intentionally left out part of the formula and reasoning, and had sold the full formula to Microsoft. The paper itself was worthless.




Monday, September 8, 2025

Ford Foundation listserv

 

The Ford Foundation had an equivalent to the notorious Journolist.


the Ford Foundation had a similar listserv, the emails were leaked: chrisbrunet.com/p/whistleblowe
Here are a few real quotes I cherrypicked from their emails: “I reject these neoliberal invocations of “dialogue” or “understanding the other side” “Why should people with opposing viewpoints be listened to?” “I will not engage such arguments in the name of scholarly civility" “Those who feel compelled to “Hear both sides” is disappointing and intellectually moribund” “I am disturbed that anyone could raise this question” “You ask for discussion and debate but how do we debate when somebody won't acknowledge water is wet? what's the point.” “You seek civil debate and discussion but we must first agree that [my] facts are facts” “I have no interest in this debate that continues to clog my inbox. I will just say this it is an absolute and disgusting abomination that on a list overwhelmingly utilized by Black and Latinx people we are subjected to a racist debate” “We fordies have no obligation AT ALL to engage in so-called "debate"… if your views are causing harm, this platform is not the right forum. Notably, I know that we use the listserv as a safe space, but right now your cantankerous dialogue is causing young fellows who may have identity issues a lot of harm.” “I am a new ford fellow and I do not agree with you. I encourage you to take on counseling.” “the current public discourse (and on this list) we incessantly hear is that "everyone is entitled to their opinion” “[My opponent] trolls the Ford Fellows listserv, These are not serious attempts at dialogue, My perspective is that her messages are to be ignored” “Your call for mutual respect here registers as performative rather than genuine, given your apparent refusal to engage or practice the knowledge established in these works, many of which are the products of Ford fellows’ intellectual labor. Just stop. I don’t want to engage further.” “We especially should not be expected and do not have an obligation to engage in conversations like this” “Sometimes people who ask us to "educate" them do not really want to learn. They want us to engage in a fake debate, where their "opinions" are given the same weight as our informed, evidence-based beliefs.” “I find it appalling that one might raise this question” “I cannot listen in good faith to a person with this viewpoint… I can’t hear you, regardless of who you are”